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What is the difference between a hatchling and a whelp

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What is the difference between a hatchling and a whelp

Post by Nabalazs » August 17th, 2016, 10:53 pm

It just recently occoured to me when I was looking for cute stuff to bring up my mood. I was searching these two things, to get the same result. So I ask. What is the difference between a dragon hatchling and a whelp?
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Post by Rasalom » August 18th, 2016, 5:54 am

It's basically the same thing, methinks...
I mean hatchling is a referrence to newborn (something that hatched), and whelp is a very young child, right?
I for one always wondered why do people call them male dragons drakes. Isn't "drake" refer to a male duck?
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Re: What is the difference between a hatchling and a whelp

Post by Daedalus » August 18th, 2016, 9:25 am

The term "Hatchling" just refers to a animal recently born from an egg; birds, snakes, fish, and other reptiles. Whelp is any newborn carnivorous mammal.
Rasalom wrote: I for one always wondered why do people call them male dragons drakes. Isn't "drake" refer to a male duck?
Drake is a term for a male duck, but it also means "Dragon" though not specific on gender. So using that to refer to male dragons is something that I'd assume was picked up by media and sort of stuck.
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Post by Nabalazs » August 18th, 2016, 10:05 am

Aren't drakes an other variants of dragons? Like a wyvern, for example.
I don't know, this is just what I like to think. Dark Souls 1 describes them as imperfect dragons. But still dragons...
So... drake and dragoness? TIL.
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Post by Rasalom » August 18th, 2016, 2:58 pm

Oh.
I found the term in few stories on SoFurry, you know. And it was in the context "dragones finding a proper drake to mate with (instead of human)", or something; so I gathered it was refering to male dragon...
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Post by LokiDragon » August 18th, 2016, 10:20 pm

A Drake is a non-magical dragon (can't breath fire), most times I've heard them referenced their also more animal in nature, less sentient... Although this might be propaganda put forward by those stuck up fire breathers!

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Post by Nabalazs » August 18th, 2016, 10:25 pm

But... but... the Hellkite drake in dark souls... it's infamous because it literally roasts your ass.
As of animalistic nature. I once red that wyverns are known to be more aggressive and evil. Compared to westerns.
I liked the explanation that a drake is *just* a male Dragon.
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Post by Dragonhunter4321 » August 20th, 2016, 4:15 am

Wyverns where once associated with the devil, of course they are considered evil!

And I once read that drakes also refferes to young dragons (particularly wingless) . Although I've commonly heard it refer to male dragons, yes. But I believe it is more similar to how one reffers to young male cows as steer. I belive drake refers to young male dragons. And Wyrm is full grown dragons.

Whelp is often associated with carnivorous young animals that don't have a common term (like wolves have pups and lions have cubs)
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Post by LokiDragon » August 22nd, 2016, 12:20 am

Western Dragons are associated with the Devil in most forms. The Devil himself was depicted as a dragon throughout the middle ages, wasn't until later he got the daft goat make over.

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Post by Rasalom » August 23rd, 2016, 11:44 am

That is a funny one, 'cause latin "draco" means "snake". Only later, "draco" have been conected with "dragon"
So at first the devil was originally depicted as a snake (You know - Eden and stuff).
The word "dragon" is greek in origin - "drakan" (sharp-eyed), and most of european languages names them in that fashion:
Eng. - dragon,
bułg. - drakon,
germ. drache,
cz. - drak.
Slavic-originating languages however (such as mine for example) name them differently; from Proto-Slavic sъmъkъ, - smok, but I digress... :roll:
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Post by Nabalazs » August 24th, 2016, 9:28 pm

In Hungarian they are called sárkány
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Re: What is the difference between a hatchling and a whelp

Post by Saphira » August 24th, 2016, 11:18 pm

Personally, I think a hatchling is a dragon that has just hatched up to a dragon that has lived for a year. A whelp has lived longer than that.

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